When will Trenitalia have late September routes

As many are aware, Italo Treno is the arch rival of state-owned Trenitalia for high-speed rail service in Italy (but only Trenitalia operates non-reserved commuter trains on local and medium-distance routes). Italo Treno competes with Trenitalia on many (but not all) high-speed rail routes within Italy.

There is not much distinction in the quality of service between these two operators on routes where they compete directly. HOWEVER, there ARE at least three major differences:

1. Italo Treno often has lower fares than Trenitalia;

2. Italo Treno's rules and surcharges for reservation changes are more liberal than those of Trenitalia; and

3. Italo Treno has installed high-filtration HEPA filters on its trains, which re-circulate the air every 3 minutes, thereby decreasing the risk of virus contagion.

https://www.italotreno.it/en/the-train/travel-safely

https://www.italotreno.it/en/the-train/hepa-filters

Trenitalia's trains are apparently NOT equipped with HEPA filters. However, Trenitalia is currently studying a PROPOSAL to augment the safety standards of at least some of its high speed trains on several routes by requiring all passengers to have a "green pass" (or its equivalent) which documents their full vaccination status, or having tested negative to Covid-19 no more than 48 hours prior to train boarding. Presumably, American travelers should present their CDC vaccination cards to establish their vaccination status.

https://it.notizie.yahoo.com/sui-treni-frecciarossa-si-potra-salire-solo-con-green-pass-lipotesi-allo-studio-142335798.html

Hi all,

Hope you could help me with this little dilemma. I have also posted in the Venice Forum.

I am currently planning a trip to Venice with a friend at the end of September for three days. Both have never been to Venice, I have been to Florence on a day trip from Rome in February years ago, and despite the rain, liked it a lot. My friend has never been. The question is now, do I stay all three days in Venice or take one day to visit Florence? Please list pro's and con's. Thanks in advance!

Hi Everyone,

Re-planning my postponed trip from 2020 this year. I seem to have forgotten all the valuable tips I had received for my previously planned trip. Is August a bad time to travel in terms of closures and holidays? Since I have nothing book yet, would it be better to travel in September instead?

I am thinking the following itinerary for now:

Aug 5-10-Roma

Aug 10-13-Florence with day trips to Sienna, Pisa?

Aug 13-15-Venice

Aug 15-16-Train back to Rome and fly home.

Is this too ambitious?

Will be travelling on a Covid tested flight in and out from Rome from Canada

Hello Friendly Travelers!

We will be in Florene from September 15th - September 19th. Although we are staying in Florence, we are allocating 1 full day for more "tourist" sites. We have been to Florence previously and saw the Uffizi (although somewhat quickly), Accademia, and climbed to the top of the Duomo. This time around we are going with a couple friend of ours who have not been to Florence, but also open to whatever (one is more into museums than the other). That all being said...

Initially I was trying to decide with whether to go back to the Uffizi or to do the Palace Pitti and the Boboli Gardens. I ultimately decided on the Palace and the Boboli because I have not yet seen it and our friends our open. 1. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

.2. I have now realized that the gardens open at 8:15 AM but the Palace does not open until 1:30 PM (I believe). As I really want to make the most of our day, I am wondering, 1. How long does one need at the gardens? and 2. Could we potentially do the gardens in the morning, walk over and do the duomo and grab lunch and then walk back to do the Palace around 2? I know it is kind of non-sensical to walk back and forth, but it really is not that far and we are into the additional "exercise." Again, thoughts on this would be very helpful.

Hi all, we have the pure joy of a month to explore Italy by car this autumn (covid etc dependant). We have a few of the obvious places to visit; Venice, Florence, Amalfi Coast (likely the furthest south we will go) but to join these up we are looking at “non obvious” aka not big city places to stop. Somewhere with beautiful views or old villages to explore, places with beautiful hotels or hideaway gites to stay.

We will travel from the north, likely Pisa / Florence first, then work down South until Naples so particularly looking for suggestions in this area. It’s a round trip so we go Naples back up with some stops (east coast perhaps?) to Venice, Como and home

Many thanks!

Experts flying into Rome at 745am arrival. then and catching a Trenitalia to Vernazza question. Given these uncertain time and capacity on train It is a Friday in September should I buy the tickets in advance now? The train departure would be at Noon which is 4 hours after my arrival and should give me more than amble time to travel to Termini to get the train. Thoughts?

I will be arriving into Nice in the middle of September. I have a month and will spend 10-12 days in Northern Italy and the rest in France.

My plans are to go to Verona first and then the Dolomites as I think the weather should be better at the end of Sept. Thinking 1/2 nights in Verona, then 4 nights in the Dolomite area-suggestions welcome. Maybe an airbnb and do day hikes? We will have a car.

Then make our way back to Nice stopping in the Piedmont area-again suggestions of a location not in a busy town to make day trips? Maybe also a couple of days in Turin?

Our interests are hiking, history, food and wine.

Any tips would be appreciated.

Hi all,

I am in the beginning stages of making plans for my late May, early June trip to Rome. I have decided on two side trips from Rome, Naples and Florence. While I am sure Florence is beautiful, and I will spend time roaming, I am also using Florence as a base for a few days, to take some bus day trips., to enjoy the countryside of Tuscany, and smaller towns. The one that I really want to go on will include Cortona, and Arezzo.

is this a good tour group to research ? if not, any suggestions, and also is it ok just to wait until I get to Florence to book these, or better plan more ahead.

Thanks for any help....

https://www.viator.com//tours/Florence/Tuscany-in-One-Day-Sightseeing-Tour/d519-5070TUSCANY?mcid=61846

Hi,

I am trying to buy tickets on the high speed train from Rome to Florence in late November, but it appears as though they aren't running. I can buy a ticket for a high speed train up until November 2, but after that date, all of the non-stop options are either 3h 45 mins or just over 4 hours. Does anyone know why this is the case? Are high speed trains not running in after October? Is this a COVID thing? Am I trying to buy my tickets too early? Thanks!

Hello,

My husband and I will be arriving in Florence on November 30 after 4 nights in Rome. On our trip booked for last September we were planning one night in Siena at an Agriturismo. Now that we are coming during late Fall would you recommend just staying 4 nights Rome/4 nights Florence and just taking a day trip to Siena/Tuscany? Is there anything still growing or in bloom in late November? I already have a voucher for 2 nights at San Firenze Suites but have not rebooked with them yet.

Thank you for sharing your travel wisdom. This will be our first trip to Italy.