A parking for a 3m high camper near Duomo in Milano

Hi,

We will be passing through Milano next Sunday on our way to Toscany. I was wondering if there is a parking place near the Duomo where we could park our small but 3m high camper for a couple of hours just to visith the cathedral?

Many thanks for any advice!



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